It’s probably the most-discussed mystery in English history. In all the debate about whether it was Richard II, Henry VII, the Duke of Buckingham or anyone else who had them killed, the boys themselves, and the effect of their disappearance on their family and friends who genuinely cared about them, tend to be forgotten. It's one of the darkest murder mysteries in British history: did Richard III really kill his nephews in order to make himself king? Saved by Channel 4. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Read more. When I was a kid and thought that I was going to be brilliantly famous and successful, as kids do, LOL, there were three things, in particular, that I wanted to achieve. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. ( Log Out /  I doubt that anyone will ever manage that, but wouldn’t it be amazing if they did?! Mortality rates were high in the 15th century and, as was pointed out, the Tower of London is hardly the healthiest of environments. Princes In The Tower The Princes In The Tower Getting the books the princes in the tower now is not type of ... children's documentary Page 4/27. Princes in the Tower - 4oD Documentary. Please ensure you read any forum rules as you navigate around the board. Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. OK, we’ve heard all the arguments about who might have killed the Princes in the Tower a million and one times, but it was inevitable that they’d be brought out again as Richard III’s reburial approached! I don’t think Richard had anything to do with their disappearance. It’s very annoying, but it’s also fascinating. Well, I suppose he might. Change ). Before you register please ensure you are familiar with our terms of use and related policies. Tannery and W. Wright. It’s all speculation. ( Log Out /  Well, someone beat me to that! One was to prove that Nicholas and Alexandra and their five children really had been murdered by the Bolsheviks. It cannot even be proven beyond reasonable doubt that the boys actually were murdered. Well, perhaps a bit more than that – we can weigh up what we do know, and try to form a sensible judgement – but we don’t know for certain, and that’s why this debate has raged on and on for over half a millennium. It’s possible. Richard must surely have been aware that people were saying he’d murdered them: if he hadn’t murdered them, why on earth didn’t he disprove the rumours by letting them go for a wander round the Tower grounds, as they’d been doing before then. The deciding factor for me is the fact that the boys disappeared in 1483, though. Did Richard III really kill his nephews so that he could be king? On the eve of Richard's reburial at Leicester Cathedral - which will be covered exclusively by Channel 4, starting tomorrow - this drama documentary assembles a stellar cast of experts, including David Starkey and Philippa Gregory, to examine all the available evidence. And this programme did rather a good job: no-one came out with any of … On the eve of Richard's reburial at Leicester Cathedral - which will be covered exclusively by Channel 4, starting tomorrow - this drama documentary assembles a stellar cast of experts, including David Starkey and Philippa Gregory, to examine all the available evidence. Even if you were a leading noble and of royal blood yourself, murdering two of the king’s nephews without his permission would have been pushing your luck in … well, rather a big way, to put it mildly. In order to login you must be registered. And this programme did rather a good job: no-one came out with any of the more bizarre theories that people, probably more for the sake of trying to say something new than because they actually believe them, come up with. No-one suggested that Margaret Beaufort was somehow responsible for the princes’ death (a particularly silly theory, and one which always annoys me), nor did anyone suggest that Richard, the younger boy, actually escaped and that he and Perkin Warbeck really were one and the same person.